What car or truck should i buy that's right guys, we're coming to you, live from Thornton and Denver, Colorado, yep and it's Nathan, night and we're answering your questions and today we're taking obviously a questions from the chat room and we have a couple prepared questions and A surprise yeah Andres been holding onto that envelope for a little while he's very excited about it, yeah so dude. Should we hit it off for the first question yeah, you want to start with the 4runner question, yeah all right now guys. As you know, the toyota 4runner is one of the most popular off road vehicles out there it's, also potentially one of the most capable and it's still a bit of a bargain. If you get the base model one, so we had somebody who was interested in it, but with the difference – and let me read the email: I'm gon na read it from my phone, because if I do it on my computer, everything gets screwed up. Okay – and this comes from Ruben, first of all, I hope you're all doing well, despite the corona virus affecting everybody I'm trying to buy a Toyota 4runner, I want to offer. I want the off road option because the rear, Locker and the goodies but I'm heading to the limited due to the third row seating option because of my little monkey boy and my two beautiful girls. So that option is great. However, the limited comes with a center diff.
I would like to go off roading or over landing with the family. Nothing crazy, but I'd like to go out there and camp. Is there rear or Center better. Thank you in advance for your help, and once again this is from Ruben, so I guess he just want he's wondering what's the best for honor for him right, right and so Ruben. I I have a suggestion. Those are obviously not what you're looking for. This is what I did a little bit of research and the limited is not the only forerunner available with a third row seat. You can also get the base model sr5 with the third row seat and it has the same basic four wheel, drive system. The thing is: is that the locking rear diff is really good for people who are seriously going to go off road. It is huge it's. Also great in snow, by the way for those of you who deal with deep snow and you have that fire something up to lock the rear end to get out so for serious offroading. Yes, a locking rear diff is great, locking Center different to the people who are out there. It'S just an easier system to work with you, don't have as much to deal with, and you will get your third row seat with the sr5 and here's. Why? I recommend the sr5 aside from the fact that you'll save thousands of dollars. The sr5 has 17 inch wheels, but the limited, I believe, comes with 20s.
Now, if you're going to go off road, the one thing you don't want are giant wheels right. I mean a smaller wheel. Diameter with bigger rubber means that you have more sidewall that you can let air out and whatnot it's, just a better choice. Also, if you want to go aftermarket tires, which will really help you off roading 17 inch are definitely the way to go so you'll save money, you'll still get your third row seat and you'll still have a competent off road vehicle. So that is our recommendation. I know Andre agrees with me on this one. Well, I was just gon na say before we kind of address some of the chapter on comments right and guys keep going with your conversation, discussion questions in the chat room as well, where you always love to see that I just I'm, not a limited 4runner type Of guy, you know you – and I were in Chicago this year right right, never weary at the Chicago Auto Show, and we saw those special package. Remember those night editions right and they based them on the limited versions right, which means you know it had. Those kind of fancier, grilles blacked out and big wheels, like you, said, blacked out and in even that's kind of not my cup of tea. You know, like you said you know what I mean and then the bigger wheels aside from taking your off road capability down a notch which it will they're heavier.
So you have greater resistance and more drain on your power. I mean it's, not a significant amount, but it is a little bit and plus you know, it's, just one of those things where, if you're, towing or hauling or whatever bigger wheels, do affect the vehicle so in terms of practicality, that's, where Andre and I come from, But it's also question of you know the packages. The limited is really something that's a little bit more luxurious. It gives you more goodies and more toys like leather seats, exactly exactly and and also so. Your sidewall gets lower right because your wheel, size is larger than this. Guitar is smaller. You know you can't, quite you know, ear down. If you need to know all that stuff comes into play, but but then I wanted to make one comment about. The third grow right before runner does offer it and certain trends, like you, said right all right, but it's, a pretty small third row. So if you do have a little monkey like you said, your little monkey might sit back there, but a big monkey, probably won't. So like monkeys, like us, that's what I'm saying yeah monkey boys and it's funny because Andre and I both have a monkey boy. So we totally understand yes, I mean you know, throwing some sprite little boy back there and you know bouncing around and strapping him down and put him in the third row: totally cool but yeah.
You know honor is correct on that it's, not a very big third row, and then the question is: if you really don't need it for very long. The third row you might be able to get that really cool parcel shelf that pulls out which is available in the other versions of the 4runner. There are some other options out there. So if you desperately, if you really don't, need a third row, I rarely recommend it. But if you think in the back of your mind, yeah I'm going to need it from time to time, obviously that's the way to go. Yeah, for example, in the comments section ryan martin edge, says the best 4runner is actually Lexus, gx460. Actually that's that's a pretty fair comment. I mean the gx460 is not a forerunner truly right. The Lexus is more of a Land Cruiser Prado from the overseas markets. You know, but they are, I mean they are kind of related right. They have some components that crossover, but the different engine transmission, setups they're, do if you, if you did want a v8 in your 4runner, you may have to go Alexis, but once again, Roman and Tommy did the video just a couple days ago right. They took a new Lexus GX off road and you know it's capable, but the clearances are not there and I think the 4runner is much better for that at the foreigner has a much better approach. You know departure, maybe even the breakover angle.
Oh that's, another thing to keep in mind on the the non off road version of the 4runner. You do have a little bit of a chin spoiler that comes down a little bit and that will take away from your approach angle. So once again, if you're serious about off roading, then just go for the off road package and deal with the fact that you're gon na lose that third row seat. But if you're, if you're gon na do light off roading some basic camping just do some dirt roads and some minor over landing, you really don't need to have a rear locker. So you know that that's, where you have to put your choices but we're, throwing that out there sr5, probably a better choice. Yeah. I agree. There are a couple of other comments. Let'S see Dan f consent says limited for honor is a fancy. Runner yeah would agree. It'S a little bit too much Chrome in general, just yeah, but Dan. You are such a fancy. Man I've seen you that tuxedo on he drives it. He drives a semi truck wearing a tux I've, never seen anything like it before crazy Wow. You heard it here. First also, we have Ron Smith, Gordon gaming chain, bound Jacob steel, Garret Gilbert, Alex k, DJ Underwood. Thank you guys for joining. I mean this is this is really good stuff. I think the other comment I saw was, for example, from the 2020 Titan Truck of the Year 4runner.
The best 4runner per dollar is the TRD off road premium. So what do you think about this Nathan, the off road version? Well, I mean I don't, really see why the premium. Well, I guess he well, you get the better package with premium. Obviously, so you also get different suspension options. Right I mean: do you really need the fancy kdss suspension in theory, yeah honestly, I don't think you need the eight track or the Krall system either. Honestly, look it I'm, not the right person, to ask about this because I've actually Christ for myself a brand new 4runner, because I was thinking about it and I just looked at the Opera basic off road package that was more than adequate for what I was looking For this is a little while ago, but once you move up, I mean the the price disparity between the regular one and the premium and then going off to the TRD pros and whatnot its immense and that's. Just the one thing I can't quite abide the three or 4000 difference I'm, sorry, but just for a couple of goodies I'd, rather go aftermarket with some of the stuff that I'd wan na do that's. Just me, okay, yeah, absolutely agreed before we move on with more 4runner based discussion. I want to bring up a second question. Yeah read that letter. This is really cool guys, so I got a letter handwritten letter and it's from Jacob black, and I couldn't quite tell the return address at first and I was looking at it and I was scratching my head and then I read this letter, which is right here And it's, you know really well, you know seen the written letter in like 10 years yeah, we don't get many written letters other than bills, the TfL.
Yes, so and then they realize that this letter took over almost a month to arrive what's going on here that the Jacob black he's deployed to Kuwait and he represents her country there. So thank you free service to his country, Jacob or Jake actually and he's. Writing a letter from Kuwait, that's pretty cool his question is, he is more curious about used trucks towing. So he says you know you do a lot of brand new trucks testing, but I just recently watched your 2014 Chevy Silverado 1500 towing review on the IED gauntlet and I'm curious about how an older truck, maybe like a 2013 model, would do on the I gauntlet With a couple of modifications, like maybe helper springs tuned a tuner, so basically you know more power and maybe some other additions, maybe some more drastic additions like a turbocharger on the v8 – and he says you know, would you consider doing more of these type of tests Where we test modified trucks, but also old trucks, we've got a few modified trucks. Yeah you and I we did the GMC remember. Yes, we did. We were towing like Bros, we were towing like Bros yeah. I remember that one. I do remember that well, five star had a couple: things go up the hill, so we've had a few things that have been modified in terms of older used trucks taking those up the hill. Unfortunately, I don't think that's something that we can really do, but here's the good news about it.
We'Ve been doing this now the act on it for about six years right, all right, so we can go back to six years and you can take the information from the 2014 trucks and you can dial it back a little bit and see what you know. You know some of the packaging is the same as it was even a few years prior to that so that's, good news in terms of augmentation now we've discussed it before. Mr. truck is also a really good person to bounce this off of then, hopefully, we'll be talking to him this Friday, yeah, the the idea of helpers rings, turbochargers or air Springs extra sway bars. All of the things that you can do to help are all good. However, they won't necessarily make your truck safer to have your loans. They may make it a little bit easier to drive what more comfortable yeah more comfortable yeah, but if your vehicle has a certain load rating, if it is, you know rated at a certain amount. Everything in the world that you do to it may help it before making more car, but it may not actually enhance the safety of the vehicle that's. One of the things we really do try to push here is having a safe vehicle, one that tracts properly. I can tell properly not too much squat the brakes are working. You have to keep all these things in mind if you're going to modify a truck yeah, I agree and the only way, the only other way we can do modified trucks, and maybe older trucks is if we purchase them ourselves right.
So we don't have kind of liability issues using somebody else's truck, maybe an owner's truck that's. Not we can't really do that, but we do buy trucks from time to time. We have three new ones right now, but we also have a couple of old ones. So as long as we can do it safely, we'll be doing a little bit more of that and I'm sure five star tuning. You know our partner with with the tuners I mean: we'll have more trucks coming this year, so definitely stay tuned for that, and thank you for writing the letter of Jake. This is really great and I also obviously replied to you on email. So I really appreciate that denikin son says Nathan that the GMC brode truck was perfect for you yeah. He could clearly see me squirming when we had to wear the hats that covered our ears yeah and also the flood bill right flat bill yeah. We were trying to find a pair of white sunglasses to wear and constantly calling each other bro. While we did it yeah. You know the good news is actually with that truck. I got to learn a lot. I always wondered what it was like to drive a vehicle that had giant wheels with really really thin thin rubber B it's, really popular people like to look, and I don't mind the look of it, but I can tell you boy: does it just take away from The trucks ability to drive like a normal truck it's, just something that doesn't make a lot of sense to me, yeah, that was cool.
We have a donation. Thank You, Gordon Gaming. 2 donation. You always support us appreciate that your question is: when is the next love? My right EcoBoost high mileage video, so we received a lot of at home edition. So basically what we put out the call to you guys asking for interesting trucks, high mileage trucks, modified trucks or even cars for sure SUVs and you've sent it to us. We have what about 400 submissions, we got it we'll get to your question in a second and when you're focusing on different brands. So we did the Ford stuff a couple weeks ago. Now we just did this weekend with Toyota, so coming up next we're doing General Motors trucks, we'll hit some Rams and dodges and then maybe circle back so we're not doing another Ford one for a while, but we're doing more classics. Videos case and Tommy are doing more of a classic Mercedes and also DeLorean, so we're gon na go back to the future pretty soon we're not buying it by the way we're not buying the goddamn car. I just looked just so you guys know already told Roman no we're not buying that car, no DeLorean, okay, Eric Volvo clean. Thank you Eric for ten dollar donation. That'S huge. Thank you very much. Thank you for your support. As always thoughts on the youth FJ Cruiser. I think better for taller and bigger guys like me. Would you would be a daily driver for me light camping used for towing, maybe a three thousand pound racecar three to four times a year.
Any feedback would be great on a used, FJ Cruiser, absolutely loved. The FJ that's another one that I actually I priced it against a Toyota Tacoma that I wound up buying years ago, members like tacoma, he was the one who forced me to put it in the mud. Today, after I bought it, you forced me and my wife got some good stuff when I came home and it was covered in mud he's done listening to this, no, never so, but the FJ there's a lot of positives. First of all, you could get a six speed manual transmission with it. The four wheel drive systems were excellent, even on the base model versions of them. With the open dips. They were great off road, very heavy. They tell it better than the equivalent two door. Jeep Wrangler but it's a very short wheelbase and toeing over, say: 1200 1400 pounds. You'Re gon na find it's a little bit wobbly. One of the problems is the wheelbase it can till I believe, it's that's supposed to tow at least 3500 pounds on a maybe even up to 5000 for the tow package, but I wouldn't recommend pushing it, definitely make sure that you are within the tolerances. Also. The manual does not tow as much as the automatic transmission one does yeah and also a used a FJ cruiser, at least in Colorado and I'm, not sure exactly where you're at Eric high in moola it's, very expensive.
Oh yeah, baby seen ones at 30000 kind of low mileage examples. I'Ve seen some a little bit lower so I'm a little bit higher, they're very expensive, because not there now desirable, because it was kind of a concept vehicle that was kind of shifted to production and it just went life and everybody. Well, not many people bought him. Necessarily when they were produced, but when they stopped production boom, it became really desirable, so it's very hard to find a nice one. A lot of them are modified. Actually, a lot of them. I see here in Colorado have a lift on a bigger tires, something else something else going on so that's really hard. But if you can find a nice one, I think it would be good. There are a couple quick things. Yes to all drivers can handle it. It'S actually fairly comfortable up front, but the back seats are not very comfortable. It has a clamshell design door right. So when you put people in the back, it has it's fairly tight. Think of a Honda Element but with even less face also rear visibility. Not so great, these are just the negatives. You look over your shoulder, there's the eight pillars massive or started a B that the C pillar is huge and then over the rear. Because of the rear tire you have a very, very small area to see out of as well. Those are negative, so positives, three windshield wipers baby, three, which is so freakin cool.
What off road ability out the visibility out friend, isn't too bad kind of like a Hummer, actually that's? Probably why Andre likes it, but also aftermarket accessories are huge. They do tons of things with those trucks and they are known to be super super Hardy and reliable. Yeah and I've seen them there. People like go crazy, modifying them, taking it to the Rubicon Trail. You know all kinds of stuff mm is asking in the chat room. Thank you for creating the channel you're. Welcome, of course, do you think the forerunners are overpriced based on their low gas mileage and technologies that they offer not. Really, I think that the top of the line ones are. The TRD pro is way over tat priced, but I really do think the off road and the sr5 are good deals. There it's old technology, but we know it's rock solid, reliable I'm, actually a little curious to see very curious to see what Toyota does in the future, because you have such a positive mix, it still sells like hotcakes. Are they gon na screw it up with the next generation? Are they gon na get rid of it or you know what are they gon na? Do? I think that they need to keep the recipe simple and keep this vehicle going kind of, as is with maybe a new transmission. I know that Dan Atkinson mentioned putting in like a ten speed or something like that, which I don't think Toyota has yet.
But I don't think they're going to do that because we're talking about a really old platform, a really old platform, but it's possible that they may try to make a couple minor changes before they change the whole thing you trip may be a new engine. I don't think they're going to put the Tacoma engine in there for some reason they just don't want to do it see the CIA Cressida says she thinks they are. I mean it can go back and forth. We can speculate until the cows come home right, but we don't have official information. Quite yet, all we know is the hottest stop, because right now is the tundra at the next generation, and I think the other trucks will follow so yeah but Andre. We do have that leak, which is posted on TfL truck, which does talk about the new TN GAF platform. I think they called it underpinning everything, including the 4runner and all of them, sharing a lot of the same bits in order to maintain lower cost, and that would include the possibility, the turbocharged v6 and the new transmission and some other stuff. Now, once again, this isn't confirmed, but this is based on a leak that we got from a source that we did post on TfL truck calm yeah. Absolutely there are a couple of other questions here, what's, your favourite truck. Do you fell actually that's Garrett Gilbert asking actually we're doing a fun video series, starting this Sunday and it's? Not our opinion it's actually going to be your guys's opinion, so we call it truck madness, so it's coming stay tuned and we have a fun promo lining up later this week, so so keep watching TfL Studios, it's, five channels, extra cheerful car, cheerful truck cheerful.
Now this channel TFO classics and, of course, TfL offroad, so we're gon na be we're trying to kind of he'll. Let people know about everything we're doing, because we have five channels yep about four too many yeah and you know Nathan coming up soon. I think we're gon na do TfL gardening, also TfL of fitness yeah, the fitness part might not be a joke, but I keep pushing for TfL boat or TSM marine. I think yes, captain Andre would definitely make a hell of an appearance, Admiral that's, Admiral Andre I'm. Sorry, Admiral Andre, I apologize sir that's a couple things. You guys should know the truck madness, that's coming up think of March Madness, what they're doing with the brackets, with the different teams with what they would normally do with this craziness wasn't happening right now, that's kind of sort of where we're coming from so stay tuned. For that and it's interactive, meaning that you guys are directly involved, yeah it's, going to be really fun and the favorite truck will Berkeley right, it'll kind of come up right right, we'll! Do that as well. We also have a lot of fun stuff coming on our channels. We have Loveland trials on TFO car coming in a few days in this coming weekend. This is gon na, be a rav4 hybrid versus CRB, hybrid, so that's a really a lot of crossover fight. The big crossover fight basically because they're one of the most popular crossovers out their period yep two very different philosophies on the hybrid crossover setup: yeah: oh donation, oh cool, so five bucks from Coco for cash and they are still revealing the new Land Cruiser this year.
At the Tokyo show or because the Tokyo show was cancelled, are they still revealing the new Land Cruiser? So I went out to a couple forums, because I was curious about that myself, because it is big news and unfortunately, Toyota, just like everybody else, is behind the ball and they're going to have to be they're still backed up in terms of press releases. Press launches new car launches factories that are building that everything is way behind so it's, a pretty good guess that it's going to be delayed. We just don't, know how long DJ Underwood just donated 25 bucks Wow. Thank You. Dj Underwood that's awesome, DJ's question is any news yet on the 2021 Ram heavy duty, especially than 25 hundreds. No, not really so we are still planning I'm testing a 2020. We we had it in the in the pipeline in early March and the virus shut down. Try it down, but but yes, they didn't, but we can tell him some information based on once again something that we posted on TfL truck and we actually have on TfL truck calm as well, which is the rumor of the three heavy duty Music transmissions that they're Talking about now, we don't have anything confirmed but Andre. There are three different transmissions they're talking about for possibly 20 21 or 20 22. Am i correct, yeah, absolutely and it's, basically, the current heavy duty setup, especially their high output, diesels right in every duty ramps they're using a I sent transmission it's a six speed now when they're Hemis they're now using this 8 speed ZF, so the rumor is.
Are they gon na expand their ZF transmission right and kind of replace the Ison or yet again go with a an Allison transmission? So a lot of people are kind of when they they ears perked up when they heard about this because usually comments Allison, they do medium duty, trucks, bigger semi trucks together. So a lot of people like that combination, especially if it's gon na be the new Allison, not the General Motors version of it, which people confuse sometimes because GM is now using ten speed. Allison branded transmissions, Brandon yeah and the branded thing means that basically, GM had a designs for it. Then they build the prototypes. They gave it to Allison. Allison looked at all of it tested the transmission signed off on all the tests. Did all this stuff and Allison put their name on it so but they're working on something else, a nine speed as well, so we don't know yet what's coming all I'm trying to get to is, I really hope the TRX comes and after the TRX comes you Know if we can get an updated heavy duty, so I would love that as well. We have another elimination from Marlin Chester. Thank You. Marlin Marlin says, love your videos. You most welcome Marilyn. Thank you very much so there's a couple of other questions that have to do with the landcruiser. First of all, once again, we don't know much about this future for sure what I did hear about the landcruiser is that the it's huge in Australia and other markets.
First of all – and I heard we hear rumors from Down Under basically when we talk about Land Cruisers, the rumors come from down there because they're kind of hearing about it. First because they're the most kind of one of the biggest markets for some of those vehicles – and we heard twin turbo v6 – we heard updates heavy updates. So but we don't know we don't know we don't know exactly. The Australians also said that they that they hear and it's been leaked. This is what they say that Toyota is going to actually drop the market down instead of going up market even further, but they want to make the vehicle more accessible to more people throughout the world and make it a less expensive vehicle. That'S more dedicated for off roading. Now this is what they say: there's nothing confirmed from Toyota, but it would make sense considering that there, as the price went up, the sales dropped off more and more and more progressively we're talking over 80000 right now, so will they drop it down and make it A much more accessible vehicle for everybody else, yet still being super off road capable that's. What we're waiting to hear yeah see aggressive asserts. I should bring my international Lone Star truck to Colorado, so Andre can review it. 13 speed manual, hell yeah yeah, so guys. So this we hear anything official about like the landcruiser, any other trucks, you're gon na hear it right here, it's not going to be hidden.
I like another question. Oh well, first of all comment. Scott C says heeey. We need to create CFL beer channel and cigars as much as I would love that I don't think that's in the cards. We can't really true cross beer and trucks it's, not gon. Na work, I mean from the review standpoint anyway. It yeah that'd, be great yeah. It'S getting loaded and talking about vehicles it's just it doesn't quite work out, but I agree with you: it would be awesome, it's, maybe like TfL after dark. You know it's something else, there's another comment that there should be just TF: a live channel and TfL Automotive. Only you know what we tried this, but I think people really like specialising especially you know if you focus on trucks or maybe just specific off road machines, a lot of people appreciate that. So so I have to be there's an interesting thing. I know a lot of people do get a little confused with all the channels we have, but you also have to remember that we do pretty lot of content now if we were to take one or two channels and throw all the content we're currently putting out There, in the ether on top of each other, you would have five or six submissions on each channel possibly per day now, we've noticed and we you know we have to read the tea leaves that people don't necessarily click on all those different ones.
Coming from the same channel all the time, so if we have specialized channels like truck like car, which are different and they actually do have different audiences, a lot of crossover but there's also a lot of people who are dedicated people who, like you, know a Honda. Crv or a Honda Civic are not going to be into a Ford f, 150. So then we noticed that and then suddenly we also notice that a lot of people who are just like side by sides off road vehicles, so the more we started exploring this and realize that we have talent that we can actually put out there to cover those Channels, the more we realized we need more channels for this content. That'S it's, just we can't stack them up on top of each other day by day, and the ultimate goal is to take over the world. Oh yeah, world domination is absolutely what we're about yeah, especially you know free. If we ever had the reefs or to do our tearful boat, it probably won't, be a colorado based channel. Hopefully, we'll have to be have two lakes that we could use which are within driving distance, and that would be it and there are frozen for six months. I don't be here. Yes, yeah we've got somebody up in California Florida to really help us out yeah totally. So yeah anyway that's all goodness a lot of discussion going on. Can you see some of the comments? No I'm having a really hard time reading my phone today, but I did want to bring up a couple things that were thrown at me through Twitter.
Now we have several different Twitter accounts, including my own, which is Nathan, add Lynette Twitter, but we have TfL car, TfL truck and TfL off road. All three have their own Twitter accounts. Somebody was talking about some of the stuff that's recently been coming down on TfL off road, because we do have it's it's its own website as well, and TFA off road has a couple stories per week. Minimum and recently I've been catching up with a lot of weird kind of Forgotten, four by fours that were available in the United States that are gone, but that are really cheap to buy things like the Daihatsu rocky, the the. What is it the Sportage, the Kia Sportage first generation convertible version of that which is a unicorn really hard to find there's a whole bunch of ones out there and so they're popping out periodically on TfL off road. So people are asking about that. So go ahead and read them the kind of fun yeah and Stephen has a lot brewing this week tomorrow there is a roof nest review which is actually based here in Colorado. We did a review over here of the new rooftop tent, so stay tuned, for that and Stephen is reviewing the Kawasaki TRX right, which is one of the most loaded loaded, an option side by side that he's ever reviewed, so oculus lis, expensive yeah. So he's done like a affordable last week. He did that little Glarus Ranger and now, if you switched to the other end of the spectrum, he's doing a high optioned krx, just going to be pretty cool I'm really excited for that.
We also have a lot of cats home edition videos as well coming so yeah what we trying to do as much as possible, even though most of us are working remotely still I'm, actually locked in my office in the headquarters right now. This is my first day here like over a week, so so yeah we're trying yeah there's somebody says a tearful hoverboard should definitely be started. Tfl classics already exists yeah, so we were focused on classic automobiles there. You know no TfL locomotive or submarine. No, no, not quite yet now think about TfL classic it's actually been around for a little while and what we did was we worked it and there wasn't a lot of viewership. So we kind of let it sit for a while. While we focused on other things and then Tommy took it over and he has been doing a fabulous job with taking lots of content and putting it on there and that's, including dude, I love her hate. My ride he's brought a few episodes on there and there's. Some epic vehicles on there, including a jeep gladiator of first generation technically, that is just extraordinary, but the thing is about that channel is that it really does cover everything that we don't normally cover so it's, the old stuff, the cool stuff. So I do recommend that channel it's really good. I couldn't agree more Todd, so three more questions at least okay, so, first of all, really quick Todd is asking: will you be able to post every user videos submission to at Home Edition? The answer is probably no and – and the real reason is that some of the videos there is some issue with the quality of the video either.
You know shaking this or sound or wind, or something else happened, and if and we will have a lot of time either I mean we're trying to produce our own fresh content as well. While all of this is happening so it's unlikely that we'll publish every single video that that will submit, but what we will do is you know we look at all of it: we're not skimping on anything and actually, as we do, those videos for General Motors and Ram and floor and Nissan and Toyota we'll be looking at all data, so we'll be telling you guys what we're seeing two big questions. Nathan first of all, let's hit this one. As far as Jeep is concerned: what's, what are you what's? What'S, your favorite, the Cherokee trailhawk or a Grand Cherokee trailhawk, that's tough. I think the Cherokee trailhawk slightly above the Grand Cherokee trailhawk. My reasoning is, I, like the Cherokee for a daily driver as a dad with kids it'd, be something that I would be comfortable with. My teenager driving the Grand Cherokee it's a little bit older, the bones are a little bit older, it's a little bit more of a serious vehicles, also a little more of an expensive vehicle. If you look at the two trailhawk editions, there's a major disparity in price, but in terms of capability I'm, really impressed with the Cherokee trailhawk in terms of its overall capability I've driven him in Momo Momo habit.
Several times, I've driven him on Pismo Beach, I've driven em in the Rubicon, and they just are animals, especially for crossovers, so really really good one. That would be my choice slightly above the Grand Cherokee I'm. Sorry to say I haven't driven the Grand Cherokee trailhawk. I missed out on that, but the Cherokee trailhawk is a solid vehicle. We reviewed it several times, I'm kind of I like the size of a Grand Cherokee better. You know it's a little bit more spacious, so I'm kind of leaning. You know if I had to choose: maybe a Grand Cherokee which is being redesigned by the way. Oh yeah jerky is very long in the tooth, but it's very popular people are still buying hundreds and thousands of them every single month. You know what's crazy, is that the the platform on that thing is based on the original ml platform that mercedes benz was used years ago and it's they still, they stretched it out and stretched it out, and my god so yeah. Finally, they're gon na get rid of it and replace that platform, and then I want to touch this question from Ulisses Cortez, who basically says fx4 Ford or Chevy z71, so basically he's asking which off road package is better ofx for so, especially so I'm gon na. Second, that Nathan, but especially the new Ranger effects form. So if you look at what f150 fx4 is were kind of in the past, they were very affordable, but you didn't get a heck of a lot.
You know you got, I believe, a rear, Locker and maybe a different tire, but the tire wasn't very aggressive, and maybe you got different shock tuning. But now, if you look at what Ford is doing more recently, the Ranger came up with a brand new front. End fx4 gets your skid plate in the front. It looks totally different from a regular Ranger and you get especially tuned sharks and a couple of other items and then trail control. You know for slow speed crawling which works in Reverse. Yes also works in Reverse and it's fairly smooth in most locations, I've tried it several times and then z71, I think, is kind of where Ford was so. Is he so anyone that's more mild? In my opinion, you know you do get. You know shock upgrade a small upgrade in the shocks at different tires, but you're not getting any lift Trail Boss gives you lift right, but not a z7u on and you don't get a lot of special looks. You know you get a badge. Basically, you don't get like a big stiff plate in the front that's hanging out there, then the biggest issue – Andre I mean the elephant in the room other than me is the GA t that rear end is really good on the street it's decent for towing and Everything else, but offroad having the locking rear diff, really makes a difference, yeah and then to the Ford, it's, a knob or sometimes it's a button, so so yeah afford for this doing that with their off road packages.
But I think Ford still kind of has a disparity between the FX floor and the Raptor. I think there is still a client, a big gap. You see what I'm saying yeah I mean the rather have fully dedicated undercarriage we're, not just talking about suspension we're talking about a arms we're talking about hardpoints, the underside of a Ford Raptor is as different from a regular, f 150 or on fx4 as a ranger. Is from an f 150 there's, so different, underneath and it's a completely different vehicle that's? What what a lot of people say? Well, a Ford f, 150 Raptor III, can't even process that I just say Ford Raptor, because and unless the Ranger Raptor comes here. As far as I'm concerned, that is a completely different truck yeah there's, a question here. I just lost it well. First of all, there was a question I think. Maybe there was Garrick who said? Are you gon na modify your trail boss? Currently we don't have any plan. Huh don't be a spoiled come on. Please can we modify it? You know I wanted to do a long arm suspension like remember, there's news from PAX power about the jackal. Yes, this Chevy that was wide and big yeah I'm still trying to talk Roman into this, but he's, not bending. Yet so right now we don't have any plans right now, we're putting miles on it, everybody's still kind of happy to drive it and it's more of a long term review.
You know we're trying to beat on it and beat on it and see exactly what it's about it's a really good truck. So far I mean really impressive better than I thought it would so we have over 3000 miles on it already over a couple months and we're gon na continue to beat on it and give you kind of a long term review in a couple of months. So that's coming Garrett says, tell boss or trimmer boy that's, a tough one. Those are different classes yeah. I know I mean we're talking to 50 vs. enough or you know 1500, just totally different vehicles. I mean you might as well compare a Ram Power Wagon to the trimmer that it's a much closer much closer comparison. I think I mean the trail bust me up right now, it's a solid truck it drives well on the road. It drives really well off road. A tram or gas version of the trimmer Super Duty is also pretty good. All around truck the diesel trimmer, if you're not towing, is this kind of rough riding, because it has a heavier spring. I don't know just depends on how heavy you want to tell they're kind of similar in my in my book unless, unless you want to tow over 10000 pounds, which the tremor will do all day long without an issue, interesting big, green versus big red what's, big Red is that is that the trail bus it's got ta, be the trail boss right so Big Green is in Toronto or in Canada.
So do you know in order for us to compare them, although Stephen could do it? Stephen could grab a trail boss up there from a fleet and maybe do a review I'll make the phone call. Can you call him please yeah, yeah I'm gon na take care of it right away. Unfortunately, the Canadian fleet is a lot thinner than our fleet here. So being able to immediately get one may take some time, but the idea of comparing Big Green, which she just recently updated, something to I think he repaired. Was it another starter like this fit starter or something yeah, it's kind of eating starters right now, yeah for some reason, but he's he's done some great modifications to it. That truck is a beast, so comparing it to trial bus, I think, is a great idea. There'S a question that has to do with kind of the price of expensive trucks we kind of mentioned the TRX briefly in the show, which is the latest. So you know this is not official with the upcoming truck from ramp right and like myiasis dragon says you know. Is there really a market for trucks over 60000 because the t rex is not going to be in a cheap truck? No no it's gon na. Have you know supposed to have a supercharged to be gained and special suspension and all kinds of crazy stuff? And then this question is kind of echoed by the 2020 Titan Truck of the Year.
Who is saying you know in this current economy? Maybe a small track like a meat truck, something like an old s stand would be better, so there's merit on both sides. Right, I think, if Fram, this is not the probably the best time to launch a t rex right now, but I think there is still they pent up demand there. They Ram guys or guys who you know don't want something else are rather than the Raptor right. Will gravitate towards that truck? I think it's gon na be expensive, but there may be some people who still have the resources to buy them, but what's going on on the other side. You agree well well. First of all, let me go to circle back to that. You were you you're onto something there, roman believe it or not actually said this, and he was right. The raptor and trucks like that sort of represent the new sports cars for america. If you look at sports, car sales are falling on the toilet. Okay, but high performance off road trucks have been climbing for years. The raptor is it's sort of ushered in this all new the ferrari of off road truck type mentality. Other trucks are really good as well, but the raptor really did bring that in and now you've got the Lamborghini of offroad trucks. Basically, this CRX, which supposedly will be more powerful and possibly as if not more so capable so is there a market for it.
Absolutely right now, so Ford is still selling a lot of f 150s. Yes, this year will be a rough year for everybody, but in general these trucks are very popular there. I mean I'd go out on the streets and I see Raptors all the time running up and down. I seen em in Los Angeles, for crying out loud place where you really don't meet them, but they're very popular, and they will remain to be popular until they are dethroned and even then then Ford will go and you react and build an even better one, which We'Re expecting anytime soon. The point is: is that right now, yeah it's, just we're talking 60 70, 80 thousand dollars for trucks. People are buying them. There are certain tax incentive, incentives and whatnot for buying a really expensive truck for some people. Other people just don't mind spending that ridiculous amount of money for a pickup truck and the bottom line is you are paying for a lot of tech if you think about it. So the idea of expiring a really expensive off road super truck, which is basically what we're talking about doesn't a lot of people are not going to shy away from it. Yeah there is another donation from Ronald strode, so thank you, Ronald thanks, Ronald yeah. Thank you very much Ronald says: love watching you guys from Hawaii any update on the Nissan Frontier 2021 model images and he said Mahalo Mahalo. You know mr.
truck brought this question up a couple weeks ago. He said guys, where are those frontier prototypes? You know if this truck is coming at the end of this year, which is still kind of the case. Why are we not seeing you know dozens of these prototypes running around everywhere, and this is a good point we have seen a couple years ago or up to about a year ago, about a year and there's kind of been a lull right. I don't know I don't know what's going on there. I have a guess. I still think that they are already ready to go with the production line, not just in spirit wherever else are going to be producing this vehicle, possibly worldwide with a new body and new frame new platform, blah blah blah. All that stuff is ready to go and has been ready to go for a while. What they were trying to do was milk, the current generation frontier for as long as they can, which is why we now have the one with the new engine in it as they transition their plants over to building the new platform, because remember we're, talking about new Stampings new frames, new jigs that have to hold them all. These things have to be replace because we are talking about a different size. We don't know what the differences are, but it's supposed to be different, and because that it is my guess that they're ready to go but they're just gon na peter out with the current population of current vehicles before they get to the new ones.
Now, because of that, they've been ready to go for over a year. So why bother putting these things out there and test them when they've had test mules out there, based on the regular vehicle that we've been driving with the engine transmission setup that they're going to be using there's? No reason that you really need to have the new body out there if you already have the new engine transmission, which is really what you need to be testing. So my point it is that vehicles already been tested to death. They don't need to spend the money on it, it's already ready to go. They just have to pull the trigger and start the production line and boom we'll. Have it so that's why you were not seeing it was that too long of an answer Andre? No, I think it makes a lot of sense. It makes a lot of sense with what you're saying my other take on. It is once this multiple lockdowns maybe happen. We might see a couple. Maybe the log down also has delayed some final tuning right because they need to do some final touches on this thing if it's coming out at the end of the year, so we might see them, but we don't have any information exactly some outlets out there saying That the next frontier will have not very drastic styling change kind of similar, maybe a little bit more square, but we don't know yet so we don't quite know exactly what's going on right Dan Afton's and said that big red is his old Ford.
So so somebody's here talking about old Ford versus old Chevy, so that's going to be a grudge match that may be hard to set up, but would be cool well Dancing with Georgia. Yes, yeah let's see distance wise 9000 miles away from Big Green, so yeah you're gon na have to talk to Stephen and see if you good guys can hang out at some point in time 5 miles in between 500 miles in between Ron McKenna's signing off Ron. Thank you for joining this yeah. Thank you and we're gon na appreciate it we're kind of reaching the top of the hour, which is kind of where we need to unfortunately, end the show, but I love this discussion dude this is this has been. This has been pretty amazing. Also, I mean in theory. We still have a lot of new vehicles to get through this year. Oh Harry we've been delayed, but in theory we need to. We still have a lot going on with new vehicles coming. If you think about the amount of vehicles that we're supposed to cover already we're about a half dozen behind, I would say, roughly and by the end of this year, if everything keeps going, the way it's going we'll be about 10 to a dozen behind, which is A shame but that's just the way it goes yeah and there is another. Maybe a final question here, but Colin Godby is saying asks I think for everything you all do I've been looking for a 2004 sequoia that's one owner, or he found one that's one owner with 180 thousand miles for about four thousand bucks.
It has a lot of maintenance already done on it. Should I stay away dude? This is the perfect question that's a really good question, because we just did reliable to your amedeo. We just did it on truck just this weekend and Sequoia was part of it right. There was the tender, the Sequoia and also the Tacoma that was featured right, yeah and the Sequoia. I think the only thing you really need to pay attention there is with an older Sequoia is look at the timing. Timing chain just make sure that was taken care of, because you know if it's, not that's, gon na, be a cost that you're gon na have to deal with, but that 4.7 liter according to the owners that we saw up there on the video. The 47 is still solid, I mean we knew that going in there, but they just reinforced basically that the engine is really solid. You got three of the vehicles that were in that video that you put together had the 4.7 and the the only issue that the Sequoia that the owner submitted it from Oregon. The only should that and that truck had two hundred eighty four thousand miles I believe was. There was one instance where the fan blade on the radiator fan snapped, went through the radiator and punctured it that had to be fixed, which is kind of a big deal, but still other than that. That trucks been solid, so I say, go for it.
If you like it yeah I mean there's, solid trucks, they just are yeah, so I think we, I think we're gon, na wrap up on this on this item. Okay, guys. So this Friday we have mr. truck coming in so it's, going to be a lively hoedown with em it's. Definitely gon na be but it's gon na be at the same time so prepare for that and prepare your questions and don't forget to send us some emails. As well so we can have some pre prepared questions to push through this thing. Okay, you know and our email is asked at Ta, Phut rom com and of course you guys know this. You can send your questions there and also, if you have a clip of your high mileage truck or your high mileage car or whatever it may be, that's really interesting. Send it there as well yeah and one final thing remember: this becomes a regular video when we're done with it, and we will be looking at it again and answering a few more email, questions or online questions yeah, and there is also question here about the tariff In Lux, we also just did a video on it. Yeah and it's going to be a story tomorrow, right, yep, so stay tuned, then the Hilux as well. We have some discussion there as well, so see you later we're gon na sign off they safe and sane out. There guys we'll, see you next time, alrighty I'm gon na close it down.