I am andre and i'm nathan, hey guys how you doing yeah thanks for joining us. As always, we have a super chat. Live chat room right, so we can take your questions, comments, feedback and we also have a couple prepared questions that we received on our email, info, tflcard.com and uh, but also we have a big topic to start with right. We do and um we have it's, not exclusive, but we're, one of the few who has this very interesting sketch that was leaked to us. Yes, no. I see it now. Sorry, my eyes, can't quite see it. I was a little bit of a glare but yeah. I can definitely see it yeah, so guys what you might be looking at is the theme and the shape possibly of the upcoming nissan frontier. Now, why are they doing it? This way? Why are they putting the new engine and transmission in the old truck and then they're gon na pop it into the new truck really good question? We do know that a new truck is coming, that is for sure nissan said they were, and they said it would be a radical new design. They said that um. There are a lot of questions, though, so this could answer one of them in terms of what is it going to kind of be like this could be it yeah so like, like you said, the 2020 frontier is imminent right. We reviewed it. What a few weeks ago, but some of the deliveries were kind of slowed down by the virus, shutdowns um they have a new engine, but the all new 2021 nissan frontier is coming.
We they said that, yes, they did. They said that now and we've gone over. Some of our theories, but nissan's never been real um keen on talking about why they decided to keep the old platform going with the new engine. My theory is that it's going to save them money before retooling and going to a brand new platform, because, even though this is supposed to be a similar platform that nissan said this, they said they'd be very similar in some ways to the old truck. It is not the same platform it's, not the same sheet: metal it's, not the same interior. Everything is supposed to be competitive and from what i'm seeing with this sketch, if this is a hint to what they're building it's going to be really different yeah – and this is basically a sketch or a like a prototype that was leaked just uh a day ago Or so, but apparently uh, but by the way, thanks to nissan nation podcast, this is basically the source for this particular image. So we have to thank the guys over there for their information and story. Anything we have on this particular story, and this image appears the reason why i got excited by this, and this may not be what their actual truck looks like completely, but just the departure of overall style right, um, it's it's, not a you, know, it's a revolution. This this styling would be really really in your face, really bold, really square uh and the other thing you can kind of see the this little o uh of nismo in the in the in the grill, and i i also not sure what that means, because so Far or recently, in fact, nissan nismo means it's kind of their car performance division right recently, yes, but the first generation nissan titan had a nismo version for a couple years that was replaced later on by the pro 4x and so for a little while nismo was Sort of their off roady thing as well, so perhaps they're bringing it back yeah, so so that's kind of exciting, that's kind of why we want to.
We had a lot of feedback from you guys right didn't, we yeah both pro and con. Some people are like what the hell are, they doing and other people are like. Yes, please do something bold and cool. You know what some people said. I actually got a private message from one person just before the broadcast started, and they were saying. Please don't make the same mistake you made with the warrior concept where they built this really cool concept and they didn't really come close to the actual truck. When that came out, because the warrior was cool and we all agree that that vehicle had they sold it, looking that way would have – probably, i would say, most likely – increased titan sales, yeah, uh, obviously sometimes concept trucks can be really. You know big wishful thinking. Right kind of vision, but but you got ta also back it up right, you got ta have something that you can buy, that you can sell at the dealership um and just go all the way with that um. So um let's let's look at a couple of comments here in the chat room yeah somebody asked mpg, hey andre. What was your um uh mpg when you drove yours because it wasn't released, but you did drive one of the older platform, but with the newer engine, yeah yeah, so the 2020. We have a full review on tfl truck the 2020 frontier uh. Well, first of all, let's talk about the engine really so it's a 3.
8 liter gas v6 and they say it's not really related to any other engine um. I asked i was like nudge nudge hint. Is this a gtr engine? You know, can you twin turbocharge it? Well, nissan said no it's, a specific truck engine that was meant specifically for truck duty and specifically for the frontier. It has a lot of new parts they set about 90 new as far as design and 310 horsepower, and about 281 pound feet of torque. So that's a lot of horses um. This is this – will be the leading truck in the mid size segment for horsepower. It would uh. Remember the old one had about 261 uh horsepower. I believe, and so this is a significant increase, even though their displacement's gone down a little tiny bit and another thing. Nine speed automatic transmission very similar to the one that they're currently using inside the titan yeah and a nine speed automatic right right, um, which is very similar to the titan transmission, if not almost identical, which is actually kind of cool because you have a bigger transmission Right in the smaller truck, which means it's overbuilt, i mean in theory, that's kind of in theory. Unfortunately, what this means is that nissan has discontinued their manual six speed transmission option, at least for now, uh there's. No, they said nothing about bringing one back in the future either. So you manual transmission levers. You might be out of luck yeah, so we tested it um.
I don't remember every number in my head, but epa numbers, i believe, are just coming out for the new engine in the frontier and it's it's supposed to be like a one or a two mpg improvement to what it was um uh. As far as combined ratings. Yeah nissan's gon na be up to ten percent, better yeah, which is which is which should be two mpg at least, and i believe i got closer to 20, 21 or 22 mpg on our loop, which absolutely for the real world number um. It was it's a really great result and it was a complete transformation to where a frontier was before i mean the truck feels the same. You have still the same, steering wheel, the same dash, basically the same. You know doors and etc in the cab, but the shifting of the change on the transmission is very smooth. Very nice. The engine is p, you know it. It sweeps the rpm range really quickly, so it's overall it's, a pretty nice power plant yeah i'm, really curious to see how it works in the new platform. So let's talk about this new truck now, so we know what the base is. We know that it's going to have a certain engine with a certain transmission. I would assume it's going to have probably the same rear end and most likely similar types of suspension components, so i don't think there's going to be anything radical coming anytime soon.
However, looking at that sketch seeing that it might be a nismo which means that it could be a higher performance version of this truck, is it out of the question to think that nissan might be going after higher end off road trucks like the gladiator and chevy's Colorado zr2, i think, it's a possibility. I would welcome that a hundred percent that would be oh yeah, the pro forex lineup, is already strong right. We'Ve tested many of these trucks, frontiers and titans um they're, just kind of the trucks that can do it by that. I mean they're pretty solid, they have good shocks, bilsteins um, they have, you know, usually a locker in the back, so if they can improve on those features, you know maybe raise the ground clearance a little bit and improve some of those characteristics. I think that would be great. I agree. 100 look. I'Ve always made it clear that i feel that nissans have been underrated, especially their trucks, and the frontier did really well in a lot of testing that we did specifically off road testing. But one of the places that the frontier's sort of been behind has been higher tech economy and even towing it could tow better and, according to the numbers that they recently released, uh, it does tow a little bit better in its current form, with its old platform. Right, so what if this new platform is a little bit lighter or perhaps just built a different way and allows for even greater towing and even better payload? I think that those are good assumptions and, judging by what i'm seeing on this truck, it definitely looks like they want to make a super off road version, which means they may have even beefier suspension fox, who knows, beefier tires, which they kind of need, and i Don'T know what about a front locker or or what about better armor underneath you know these are things that they could easily or fairly easily do to compete at that higher end and still have their pro 4x kind of the same way.
Toyota has their off road package, which is a really respectable financial uh package that doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but it will still get you off road and still gives you a rear, locker yeah. That would be really amazing, especially you know if you're looking at the 2020 titan, the interior is much improved. Now in that truck uh, bigger screens, you know nicer materials, um high resolution screens, nice yeah nice seats. So if you combine all of that together, that could be really cool. I want to just say hello to some of the viewers. We have pernell robertson. Second creek workshop jamie ramirez, dan atkinson chase youngren christopher t ron smith. Thank you guys for always supporting us during these live, shows your feedback and questions. I believe colorado lifted then had a question about. You know the virus shutdowns colorado lifted its kind of a state home order this over the weekend. But not every business is, like you know, wide open, so so we're still kind of in transition. Yeah we're trying to maintain most businesses, are saying: okay, we're, partially open limited customer service, maintain social distancing, wear masks, you know be careful and all that other businesses aren't following that. But for the most part i would say, majority of the businesses are um so that's. How that's, where we are right now, at least today uh, i have to ring the bell ring it because we have a donation from luke 01234.
Thank you luke, oh luco says i have a 2019 nissan frontier crew cab, long bed and i'm perfectly happy with it dated or not, and i can see why luke i mean those trucks are still solid. No matter, you know what configuration we used to uh. Also test a king cab, four cylinder manual truck. It was a base model, two wheel drive that was still a solid truck. It was really cool. You know i'm, a lot more comfortable i'm, a big hefty guy and i'm a lot more comfortable inside the frontier than i am in the tacoma um. I tend to think that tacomas look a little bit cooler, just my own personal opinion, but in terms of which one i would own. If they were the same, you know, equipment same price and everything else. I would go for the nissan because i'm a little bit more comfortable in it. Yeah there's. Another question up here that says: will nissan titan ever have a crew cab? Eight foot bed configuration uh unlikely but here's what nissan is doing? They still have the titan xd um, they discontinued the diesel version. So some people thought oh wait. The xd is gone, no it's still there uh for 2020 it's updated and it has their latest. You know gas v8. Nine speed automatic all that stuff is there and now it's a crew cab with a six and a half foot bed, so it's more usable as a bigger truck.
If you need more capacity, more hauling, more towing, um, so it's kind of a towing towing package on steroids right, where you're actually getting a bigger frame, bigger hubs, you know just a kind of a bigger truck, but i don't know if they'll go for an eight Foot bed, i mean that's kind of the territory of the heavy heavy duty trucks and that's, not cool, but they did have. Historically. Nissan did have a long bed version of the first generation titan, if you recall – and they also had a long bed version of their frontier for years and years. So they do that from time to time. It'S really a question of cap configuration as well. So i think that that kind of plays into it whether or not they want to build something that extends past their current limit. You know that's a big question so it's hard to say for sure, but we'll see you soon um we have another donation from nissan nation productions. Nissan nation is the guys who uh you know, allowed us to use this image. So thank you very much thanks guys. Thank you for your support, um. Obviously you can go to nissan nation, uh podcast, also on youtube and on their website on their website, to kind of to see more about this, the this this this image uh. So thank you guys appreciate it. Yeah we're hoping to see more stuff in the near future. We have seen a few test.
Mules run around that have been heavily disguised but it's, pretty obvious that those test mules don't, look anything like this. They look much more rounded and everything else so it's really interesting to see this sketch or this concept and to see where it goes from there. I really hope that they do something like this that's that, in your face, i really like that idea. Yeah and uh um there's more news in the midsize truck segment, oh yeah, or before we can get to some more nissan questions, which are, i think, a couple still there is another mid sized chocolate coming right and – and we recently saw there was a spy image Of sort of the body by itself the chassis sometimes called the body in white um actually being transported. It was the new hyundai, santa cruz pickup truck correctamundo and it's been floating around the internet. Uh it doesn't look fake at all. To me i mean it looks like the real deal. Um we've seen several test mules of this vehicle in the snow and off slightly off road. This is a vehicle that, first of all, nice or sorry, nissan hyundai has confirmed the building um. We actually were one of the first to break the story. Years and years ago, at the detroit auto show, when this uh vehicle debuted very different vehicle from the one that debuted the one that debuted is sort of like um. It was a partial quad cab.
It didn't really have a big back seat. This one looks like something very similar to the honda ridgeline, where it has a good size, rear seat. However, it has a similar exterior design, so it looks similar. Has a small bed, i'm gon na say a little over four feet, maybe even up to four and a half feet. So if you drop the tailgate you're gon na have close to six feet worth of length, which is usable and the best part i'd say about this vehicle. Is it strikes me as something that's going to undercut the honda ridgeline? So for those of you who thought the ridgeline was a little too expensive, this hyundai may be less expensive and it's a really good chance that it's going to have the turbocharged power plant that's currently available inside the santa fe yeah, and so a lot of truck Guys don't, like the concept of a crossover truck right, yeah, but that's, not really me i'm of the mindset. If, if it has a pickup bed, it can be a useful pickup truck right. It doesn't matter. If you know if it has a subframe, not a full ladder frame um i mean i so so to me, i'm excited by this um, the santa cruz. We don't know a lot of official information about it still like, like you were saying it probably will have a turbocharged engine, probably a gas engine right yeah. They had a rumor about a diesel for years, but it's, not, i don't, think it's going to happen yeah.
I don't know about diesels, i mean if you look at kind of passenger vehicles and diesels, it's kind of declining right they're, not introducing more it's it's becoming less and less so yeah. So only the heavier trucks are getting still very popular with diesel engines um. So not not the smaller vehicles, but but you know if we have another truck or trucklet, you know a crossover truck. I think that's good news and i just wanted to unveil it already, because yeah it's been forever and you know, it's gone through a lot of red tape to make it this far. One of the things they were doing most likely was keeping an eye on ridgeline sales which, although they haven't been blowing through the roof, they've been very stable and one of the things that i tend to say to truck people. Look i love trucks. I will always own some sort of truck, but there are a lot of people out there who don't need the overall capability off road ability or towing capability of a pickup truck, but they need something that can haul stuff around and they still need to haul the Kids now look. We all know that trucks are very capable of doing that. But if you have something that's, a little bit more car like where people don't have to worry about a big, strong, powerful vehicle, but something that's a lot more mellow easier to get into easier to drive easier for those people to own.
I say: go for it! Not only that but overseas, these trucks, which, like uh, for instance in um, australia, they call them utes, they sell a hell of a lot of them in china and japan. These vehicles are extremely popular because they are actually fairly capable uh. Some of the old utes could hold 1500 pounds in the bed, no problem and they got decent mileage and they were easy to drive, so i say bring it on the more competition there is the better it is for you guys out there because it forces everybody Else to up their game to either make more technology available for less money or even the truck slightly less expensive, so that's a possibility. I love it yep and uh. It kind of goes into the next question. We have in the chat room from jc uh what's nissan's safety rating is the question um and that's really cool, because uh on friday's live show. We also had russ from iihs.org um insurance institute of highway safety with us. He we learned, i learned a lot from russ during that fantastic interview, yeah, and we want to continue that in the future, in our tfl podcast, so we're going to dig deeper a little bit deeper into the latest safety ratings and safety, just testing in general and Right now, because the nissan frontier, for example, is the most aged truck in that segment, it does not have the highest rating by the latest standard right, because what ihs does is they include, or continue to have more and more stringent and harder to meet tests, because You know vehicles are becoming quicker faster.
You know you need that type of stuff, so the nissan frontier currently does not have a high rating but i'm. Pretty sure that nissan is watching all of this and they will have you know safety built in just like they have the safety built into other vehicles. They have, including you know, adaptive crews, all those technologies driver safety, collision avoidance. You know, backup assist whatever whatever it may be. I think they will have it. I'Ll give nissan a little bit of credit because they have uh safety features available, not available standard on every car. They build now available in the united states that a lot of other companies do not offer and that in itself is commendable. Yes, there are some issues out there. A lot of people are still really upset about their cbts and some of their quality issues, but the good news is this: new truck seems to have a pretty strong transmission it's, not a cvt and putting tons of technology in a truck which is basically being used. As a passenger vehicle makes a ton of sense, and so i agree with andre they're – probably going to shove all this stuff into that truck yeah. Now every titan is sold with their driver assistance, technology, suite right, right, you're saying so so i'm sure the next frontier will have very similar equipment if not even more right, um and also their technologies. Like you know, the adaptive cruise control system, maybe more advanced version of it um as we look to the future, so all of that is still very possible.
Um christopher t has a question related to smaller trucks he's. He says i'm interested in the fourth courier or whatever they will call it well, we think we know what they will call it. We think we know. Yes, we don't know for sure. We have an official word. What is it the ford maverick now we uh managed to break the story or one of the video outlets to break the story that the vehicle, like the ford maverick, could very well be produced, and it was uh put out there by steven andre was that put On truck, or was that put on on now that was on this channel yeah on them yeah now and that came out a few days ago. Um. This is what happened. We were leaked a image of a tailgate design that clearly says maverick on it and it's. A small tailgate and everything we've been hearing about from ford, including ford themselves, saying that they were looking at building a smaller pickup truck to slot. Underneath the ranger and the fact that we've seen a lot of test vehicles out there that are once again youths uh car based or crossover based pickups that are out there testing. It looks like this vehicle will be based on the same platform in a similar design. To the ford bronco sport, not the bronco, but the broncos sport, which is based on the escape platform. Now, if that's the case, then we already have a general idea of what type of power it could have, and you know roughly what the size is going to be and it will be if they do this smaller than the ranger.
But passenger capacity will be about the same. In fact, it may even be better in the back seat, because the current escape has a massive back seat, so it'd be interesting to see what they do there, but anyway we've got this tailgate design. So we did the video on that steven elmer from canada did the broadcast, and a lot of you guys are pretty excited about it. I am too, i am really looking forward to see what the next step is with this. This should be if it's built uh decent in terms of carrying capacity. I would imagine they're going to try to be competitive with the ridgeline, even though it's smaller and with this upcoming santa cruz, and then on top of that it should have a pretty decent all wheel, drive system. Ford has been pretty good about all wheel drive with some of their vehicles and we're, going to see before that. The ford broncos sport so it's logical to assume if it's built on this platform, whatever the bronco sports able to do. This thing will be able to do possibly even better yeah. That would be uh really interesting. I think we're still a year two away from this particular truck, because i mean ford is really busy. Uh, like you, said the broncos sport bronco, the latest f 150 um. The mach e mustang that they're launching i mean they're very busy right now, so this may maybe maybe next year that we'll see something about that.
So not quite not quite this year um. I had a question here. Sorry, i'm, just trying to juggle a lot of different areas here. Um, oh christopher, just donated five bucks. Thank you, christopher christopher. Thank you so much yeah. I really appreciate that. Thank you for your support. Um. We also had a prepared question nathan. Did you have something just no no go ahead, um so yeah, so this kind of relates to uh what you and i were seeing at the chicago auto show nathan. So this question came from jason byrne and jason is really interested in the new 2021 chrysler pacifica. All wheel drive um, he says thank you for doing your videos i'm, hoping in the near future. You can do some reviews of the new pacifica. All wheel drive uh. Well, we hope so too. We will no it's inevitable. First of all, everybody at fca knows what we're about we do a lot of testing in the snow and in difficult environments. The whole purpose of building an all wheel drive minivan is so it can perform in snow and inclement weather. So that was why they built this thing. They made it really clear that they wanted us to get our hands on it as soon as possible. Now the big question is whether or not we're going to go to a press event and drive one first or if they're, going to send one to us and we'll drive it here and that's, something that automakers are starting to do.
They'Re starting to send us vehicles right, you know fresh out of the package that we're able to drive here. So that way you know the contact thing and corona virus and all that we can kind of take that all aside just get the vehicle put it out. There make a video for you guys to watch yeah, absolutely and i don't think it's coming like within the next couple months. It may be in the latest summer or fall uh because i think they were targeting like third or fourth quarter nathan. I can't remember exactly. I think it was third quarter, and so you know they may be a little bit behind with what's going on with the you know, the delays, but i don't think they'll be too far back bear in mind. You know these companies have had to retool and whatnot. This vehicle doesn't just have all wheel, drive, it has a new interior and it has updated exterior design. So that means new stampings and new components, so they already got a lot of that in place, ready to go for them to produce the vehicle. So the good news is that once things mellow out and we're able to get back to work, they'll be able to start producing these vehicles for you guys now, by the way, real quickly uh, some people are a little confused. This is just the regular with the v6, the pentastar all wheel, drive minivan, they do not build and they do not expect to be building a plug in hybrid with all wheel drive, although that may come in the future from fca or somebody else right now, it's, Not available and it won't be available from fca, yeah and but um so, but the plugin will still continue right.
That'S right, it will still be the same platform it's the same plug in hybrid system. Basically, they're saying this performance is about the same as it was before. The cool thing, by the way with the all wheel drive, is that, despite the fact that they have a drive, shaft and a rear end and everything else, they still have the same size. Fuel tank and it didn't add that much weight they didn't really have to lift it really high or anything else. It has a little little bit of a lift kind of uh, but it doesn't it's, not something that really impacts its overall ground height. So that means better aerodynamics yeah, some of you guys out there want it lifted. So you can, you know, kind of bounce off road. I don't really think that's what it's for i, i think they were thinking quickly. 4X4. You know just boom. Could you imagine modifying something like that? Really cool? But you know they remember, you know chrysler. They used to have their um older minivans had all wheel drive as an option and they were pretty good systems. They worked all right. So this new one, you promises to be good and the cool part is really their only competitor is toyota. Toyota is the only other minivan sold in the united states that has the option for all wheel, drive, yeah speaking of toyota um, really quick. Before we get to toyota um there's, a question from james beamon that i i meant to answer, but it kind of slipped.
My mind uh james, is wondering what's up with uh our gun smoke project, which is our classic truck it's, a 1989 f 350 one ton, four wheel drive truck, which we're going to be selling for charity uh, which is really exciting, uh we're still working on it. So the next step is, we want to put some beefy new tires because the tires are in the truck. Now are old and really not good, um and we've been slowed down by this dang shutdown uh. We cannot get a tire sponsor to help us out so um, so we're still looking for tires, but as soon as those tires arrive, which should be in the next week or two uh, you know we'll be taking it off road testing and doing videos with it. So we can finally get it all dressed up as much as we can and actually sell it for charity, so that's coming as soon as we can get over this little hurdle, so that's really coming um. You mentioned toyota nathan there's, a press release just came out today, actually from toyota and um. They are first of all they're doing some. You know new new stuff for their prius and that's. That should be on cflcar.com that information, but also they have um online debut a live stream next monday. So stay tuned for that, because about a week from now next monday morning, they're going to have two vehicles debut – and i was kind of excited and surprised by this – and people are saying that this might be either their new, updated, hybrid, sienna, minivan.
The all wheel drive and potentially the new venza, the toyota venza suv that went away. You know they had it that went away and now they're trying to bring it back that that's. So we hear that's what we hear now with the toyota sienna. There was actually some leaked images from a dealership meeting with toyota showing that they had not only a hybrid sienna, but only a hybrid sienna that the rumor has it. It will only be available as a hybrid and then possibly possibly as a hybrid, all wheel, drive minivan remember. I was saying that the you know plug in hybrid. All wheel drive not going to happen, but they already have a system that's already set up for their larger suvs or crossovers like the highlander right, and so they might adopt this system basically to run with the sienna and if that's the case, they might still win. The mpg war and still have an all wheel, drive vehicle available, so we don't know for sure, but that could be one of the announcements coming up: yeah, um so and also a hybrid benza, it's very possible and, like you said, the highlander has their latest hybrid System, um it's a little bit more efficiency minded right, so it's not a full high performance system um, although they might have something in the future because remember the 2021 rav4 prime, which is kind of a quick, hybrid or a plug in hybrid system.
So this is not it. This is more kind of efficiency minded systems and we'll learn more about it next week. You know this is kind of all we know so far, but stay tuned next monday it's going to be boom. Toyota is going to be coming out. Really strong um that was supposed to be roughly, i think, if it's significant enough, maybe we'll cover some of that in the live broadcast a week from today, yeah, but also probably on this channel we'll also have news videos with first information, for you guys, you don't Have to wait till the live show you could see it right there right on this channel. Um you'll have all of that. All of that, for you so that's going to be a really exciting aviation channel, says uh uh. He also wants to see a hybrid palisade. That would be an interesting that would be an interesting another company that has the technology to do it, um right now, their palisades sales. I mean this very moment. Obviously, sales are down across the board, but the palisade has been doing well and has been creeping up. The board and it's been winning awards left and right, and one of the things honda hyundai is: is a pragmatic company? They'Ve figured out a lot of things about the american audience and what we like having an affordable luxury suv that's that capable really makes a lot of sense, making it a hybrid makes a lot of sense, and so i would imagine that within the next few years, You could see that yeah absolutely there's a couple of other comments and questions first, let's hit.
The nissan comment: uh dave davey boy smith, says, is a new frontier engine which is direct injection just as reliable as a tried and true four liter, which wasn't direct injected uh. We don't know uh yeah, we're gon na we're gon na, but from what nissan tells us and manufacturers do this a lot um as soon as when the engine is first goes into production. It has millions of miles of testing or simulations. You know on the computers and real world testing real world miles. So, assuming you know, they've done all of this stuff. It should have pretty reasonable durability, reliability, but we won't know for the next couple years. No, absolutely not not realistically, not not through our own perspective. However, i can tell you that you know i talked to a lot of nissan guys, they're pretty good about talking to us and they were saying look. We can't get this wrong. This needs to come right out of the box as a strong, reliable, tough engine. We tested the hell out of it. They'Ve been testing it for years and years. It is a new, you know pretty much an all new engine and it's something that they want to be competitive and they want it to be. You know the vq series of engines from the past, including the one i have in my own nissan pathfinder, which is still rock strong. These are legendary engines because they are so damn reliable.
They got great power, so they want to go up that level and say: okay, that's what we want this engine to represent in the future yeah. I have to ring the bell. Thank you again. Oh ronald. Thank you. Ronald strode, five bucks, uh, sorry, i'm late. Can'T. Wait for a new frontier thanks, guys! Well, we didn't unveil a new frontier. This is kind of a prototype image that we have so you didn't miss a heck of a lot, but we're still excited yeah. Absolutely and remember this video uh, this live broadcast becomes a video later on and you can review what we mentioned at the beginning of it and we will review it as well and answer a few of your questions. Yeah and then there's a couple of uh uh. Funny comments i saw, i believe, christopher t said: honda odyssey should have a type r, then uh. Somebody said that uh ying chang said that the toyota sienna should have a gr race version sienna. You know what um you do. A video with the sienna, the previous generation uh on the racetrack yeah. I was one of the first idiots to take one on a racetrack. What happened was uh. The old reps from toyota brought this thing out the sc version. Now the sc has a slightly more sporty stance, a slightly beefed up suspension. It has a different steering gear in it um but it's the same power train and all that, and we were out of this wagger wagon swagger wagon.
It was just before they started, calling him the swagger wagon, they brought it to the racetrack and they really were just going to use it for transportation back and forth, and i turned to the guy – and i said: well, you say it it's higher performance, there's, a Racetrack right here, why not, let me take it on it, yeah go ahead and i did, and you know i mean for a big square box. It handled pretty good it's it's, not exactly what i'd call sports car uh back then the mazda 5, which is sort of a minivan handled better, but otherwise it was really solid. So there you go. I mean if you guys, are desperate for a good handling. Minivan it's pretty good. Oh another donation, yeah! Thank you very much. The people uh says uh nissan should spin the titan off as its own brand uh. Well, i don't know i don't know about that. I think i think before they spin it off, they need to have maybe a greater range, maybe a halo vehicle. You know more a lot more sales before they can spin it off. Yeah i mean nissan has other brand names around the world. You know that datsun still exists, they actually kind of brought the name back and they're selling datsun's uh in third world countries and whatnot as really inexpensive cars and, of course they have infinity. But in terms of uh titan, i i suppose you could say that they would have to have.
I don't know three or four other vehicles to stack on top that they would all call titans. I think it would be a lot of work and a lot of extra pr that they can't really afford to do right now, yeah, i mean just get the basic vehicles good, you know successful and you know just keep going right right. Um jc says: do you think us automakers will team up and make an ultimate off road truck or suv andre? I don't know if they need to team up necessarily so jeep's been big on. You know ultimate off road for a long time. They have the wrangler rubicon there's, another rumor that they're going to be also have a mojave, wrangler uh version, basically more of a desert runner, rather than kind of a rock crawler, so that's a rumor by the way. I'M, not quite you know, official information there and, of course the new ford bronco is coming out, which is supposed to be a direct wrangler competitor, just just really tightly uh linked together and kind of fighting against each other. So i think what we're seeing is not teaming up, but competition coming together and actually making everybody better. At the same time with that being said, they actually do team up from time to time with certain components. Uh. Some of the development costs of transmissions and of certain powertrains have actually gone through multiple companies that that way they save a little bit of money in development.
The 10 speed transmission that's available in well that's standard now in all ford trucks or most ford trucks. Sorry and uh some general motors trucks that was sort of co developed between those two companies, so there are times where they will team up to do these types of things, but all of them getting together to build a truck or a series of trucks. That'S doubtful. Yeah and like you know, the weirdest team up that i've heard of recently is that honda and general motors announced recently that uh honda will use general motors electric platforms to build electric hondas like like when i heard that my brain exploded um. You know what it was part of the announcement of their new, you know, hummer, electric and their new chassis and and which is not going to be only trucks they're also going to have car chassis, um, so basically, kind of a skateboard orientation with batteries and motors And wheels well: honda has their new little ev car, which is available overseas and it's supposed to be a pretty fun. Car supposed to you know be great, but what they're looking at is expanding their audience. Despite all the changes that have happened, everything from the epa to you know gas, dropping and all that people are still very much on board with building ev vehicles for the near future. So it stands to reason that certain companies will partner up with other technology companies to build.
You know: cost effective, evs ford's doing that with rivien they're working together to come up with technology. You know it's not unheard of actually i'm surprised that nobody's partnered with tesla, but that could very well be the fact that tesla is just one of those companies that just doesn't want a partner, but they used to work with toyota that's right, that's right. They did for a little while, and that was a disaster. Well, maybe that's. Why but anyways they used to have a rav4 electric that had uh um, actually the running gear from a tesla, older tesla's and it just wasn't it wasn't great yeah, yeah um, then age uh brings up a a good point here, along with i'm sorry, i missed Who started that thread, but the xterra there's a couple of comments that the xterra should come back? Oh boy? I i really wish it would um. You know there's a funny thing about the xterra and why it went away. First of all, people slowed down on buying it, so the demand wasn't really out there for a while and nissan. I believe, felt that between their new pathfinder, which is before transitioned into basically a station wagon and their uh armada, they kind of had that whole area. Taken care of that people just didn't want these smaller. You know serious off roaders and they're wrong. They were wrong to discontinue it. So you know the theory is that, with the new platform like they're, going to be building for this new uh frontier, maybe they'll do something else with it to make it more cost effective and build an suv, a proper one to sit on top of it, and Maybe that would be the return of the xterra it's, not beyond them to do that.
But the thing about nissan is they've, been very serious about electrifying and also making more efficient vehicles. So i don't know how realistic that is, but i agree with you 100. They should bring back the xterra and you know what they do with the pathfinder right. They often do kind of a trucky pathfinder, then crossover pathfinder, then truck based pathfinder i'm, really hoping we're in the precipice of like a truck based pathfinder coming out that, and that is a rumor by the way that that they might be considering that and changing it. Over to regular automatics and ditching cvts that's been a long time rumor. One of the things you have to keep in mind is that first generation pathfinder that was a truck. Basically, that was a nissan truck. Real simple second generation was a unit body, but it did still have a solid rear axle and it was a proper off roader. It was capable, and then the third generation and i'm pretty sure, that's the one you know in terms of pathfinder, moving up to xterra. That was a truck that had a live axle. It had a frame underneath basically same thing as a frontier, very similar to a frontier, and that was a solid truck. So would they go back to something like that? That'S the big question, so maybe they're going back into that realm of saying: hmm americans are buying a lot of trucks. Now they've, just outs, trucks are out selling cars.
Now maybe we should build a truck again and of course i mean it's affected by a lot of factors right, total fleet. You know efficiency regulations or you know slowdowns of economies it's just you know, it's very hard to think about, but i think xterra, especially with the bronco coming back. You know, and especially with the wrangler there. I think an xterra would be a really solid and the forerunner is still there right. So it'll go as long as those things are. There i mean nextera. I think it makes sense to um the business case should be there. Maybe they'll make it all electrical external. You know something that'll compete with the uh gmc hummer. Who knows i mean look i'm, not saying do that, i i would really prefer to have a conventional. You know proper off road rig, but you never know. Nissan actually has been on the forefront of eevee technology. For years, so they could do that who knows yeah their their leaf has been. You know, one of the more popular cars as far as sales across the world, um alex cage, has donated five bucks. Thank you alex. Thank you. Thank you. What do you guys think? I made um the right choice: getting a 2019 vw atlas instead of a pathfinder, hmm uh. I think i like that decision. I like it, i do 100 and andre. We did a video. I believe you did it with me where we took the atlas and the uh pathfinder off road um, and we can put it together, yeah yeah, that was a couple years ago.
It was a couple years right when the atlas came out and the atlas look. No vehicle is perfect and the atlas has its flaws, but compared to the other vehicles that it competes against it's one of my favorites it's, very roomy, very comfortable. I love the engine and i think that off road it actually, that system worked great um yeah and, i think um, comparatively speaking um. I, like the atlas a little bit more because it's just a little bit larger for a three row, crossover um, i mean i'm. Just over 62., so i just for me that feels better yeah good elbow yeah, more room in general, and i think if nissan is redesigning the pathfinder, which i think they're in the process of doing they're, probably going to make it bigger too a little bit. At least all vehicles seems to be growing just a little bit as we progress. Look how big the versa is now it's massive yeah it's things things change that way, but that's also because that's what the public wants. So so yeah that's really important. Of course um there was one comment about bringing back old names right like an xterra in another form and that a lot of people don't. You know if you get that wrong people don't, like it yeah or if the name doesn't match the vehicle right. So we've done that before i think that's very important. Yes, that's, very important, the dodge dart uh, you could, oh god, how many people are upset about the chevy blazer i mean you know.
The reality is, is that a name does matter and uh bringing the right name to the right vehicle is important. Um jc is asking any news on the new bronco. Technically, no, no, not not hard news. You'Ve seen. I think everything we've seen with all the prototype shots. You know information leaks. It seems to be that the bigger bronco, the ranger based bronco is going to be a true wrangler competitor. I think it's becoming more and more clear. We just we just want to see the thing just just unveil it, so we need numbers, yeah, hard numbers, heart engine, specs everything and the broncos. Sport like we said it's a smaller thing. More crossover based escape based, uh also pretty exciting, because it kind of looks like almost like a renegade or cherokee competitor right, so it's kind of in that space, which is great once again, the more competition, the better every single time. Somebody builds something to go directly up against something that you guys would buy. That means that they're forced to up their game and that's what we've seen by doing this for years and years whenever that happens, it's good for you guys and ford's not playing around look. They got rid of all their cars, except for the mustang, so they're really serious in the truck game and that's. Why i'm really looking forward to both broncos actually thing is um. You know there was this: a new rumor it's just over the net it's, not substantiated by anybody, saying that ford is considering using the coyote in a special version of the bronco, because the coyote will see life past 2021, that's, the rumor and that they want to.
You know add that to their portfolio, but once again it is just a rumor and it's not backed by any fact yeah it's, a kind of the same rumor that says that the new raptor will have a supercharged v8 right, um there's, nothing really official on that And i think it's highly unlikely in my view, but the new uh rebel trx is coming and that supposed to be supercharged based on everything we know, and of course we just had some uh leaked news today: right that's, right, uh, a possibly supercharged chevy, silverado zrx. So that's on tfl truck channel. Actually so so you guys can check that out that that's once again unofficial, but but this is everything we have yeah uh, sorry about that noise, uh neighbor's dog right there um do you have a do. You have a little co worker um. I have a creature that is about to be sacrificed and used as a meal and i'm looking forward to that. No it's no big deal if you're in your home office, um so i'm in my home office and the dog has just been removed from the room. I'M. Sorry guys that was, he got he snuck out um, but let's answer a couple more questions. We got dan at the very bottom who um had a quick question. I think that uh let's wrap it up with a couple more yeah. Did you see dan's question or i mean um somebody's saying that they should put a v8 in the colorado like the old 5 3 that used to be in the chevy colorado? Oh geez, that would be nice, but i don't think that's happening um.
The the latest is uh turbos right, yeah yeah, the tr. Well, look at it this way the 5.3 output cons, if you compare it to the four liter. Sorry, the uh, the small displacement, four cylinder turbo that they're talking about putting in there um wow they're you're. Much better off with the turbocharged four, not only that, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to add displacement, and most companies are drawing everything down and they're shrinking things down for regular consumption, a special version of that truck. That would be awesome, but i just don't see that happening. I just i sincerely doubt they're going to put a big v8 inside of this small colorado, uh there's people here in the chat room. That said that you should have had the dog help us do the show. Actually you guys want to see that doug that's, my old dog, i i don't know if he wants to uh. Well, if he's grumpy, it's, okay, it's, okay, he's grumpy, i got a lot of animals guys and none of them are particularly uh. Nice uh soylent green says, but the v8 you know um is not is better than the leaf blower that a turbocharged engine is which is true on many levels, but but guys here's. What i always come back to. If you look at some of the high end cars like the latest mercedes gt, amg cars, the coupes, the roadsters um, some of the ferraris porsches – they all have turbocharged engines.
You know almost none of them have straight up v8s anymore and somehow on those high end systems, they sound really great right, i mean so it is possible. You can have valves, you can have bypasses. You can have different things going on. So i think in the future i'm hoping that that technology can trickle down – and you know we can see some of that technology with actually kind of mean sounding turbo engines look. I agree. I think that v8s sound way better than just about anything else out there, but the reality is is that you know people are concerned about consumption and people are concerned about. You know ozone and all this other stuff. So, in order to make more efficient engines, they tend to be smaller displacement and they tend to have less cylinders. So i would imagine that shoving a v8 in any mid sized truck right now, isn't very likely. I have to ring the bell again hit the bell. Really great uh, thank you guys for your support. This is um jeff ref, 2000. 5 donations. Thank you, jeff, uh jeff is asking typically you guys. Don'T recommend maxing out a vehicle max tow limits, uh by any exception, but what about exceptions like titan, xd or other trucks with mods? I i would say this um, usually the maximum towing rating and the maximum payload rating they're kind of hard to match up because let's say you're, putting what a titan x details about what 12 pounds let's say: okay, uh, that equates on a bumper hitch um to About 1200 pounds of payload of tongue weight that's pushing down on the truck okay, that's, fine let's say that titan has about a payload of what two thousand pounds.
Okay. So now you have 800 pounds left for people and other cargo in the truck. So i would watch the payload number more closely if, if you have enough payload it's okay to tell near the maximum, especially in the bigger truck like the xd um, what happens is if you're towing near your maximum and you overloaded your payload the suspension squads. All the way it starts to wiggle bad things starts to happen. Um you know you're losing control, but but as long as you can watch that payload number um, i think, coming up closer to those limits on towing, is okay, yeah and remember guys. We'Ve actually done a lot of videos: maxing out uh vehicles, uh the super ike gauntlet, not the regular gauntlet, the super high gauntlet. We usually take those trucks right up to their limit maxing out as as close as we can to by still and still being safe. What their capabilities are and they don't behave the way you might think in some cases they do really well, in other cases, it's like a real issue – and you know remember whenever you guys go past the threshold and you're maxing out your vehicle you're, not just damaging Your engine and your transmission it's entirely possible you're damaging your brakes and your suspension as well and stopping is the key you you got it absolutely right. Nathan, um, you know it's fine if you can accelerate, but what about stopping and the truck like the titan xd does have kind of a little bit beefier brake system uh to allow you to stop that thing so uh and also guys a lot of a lot Of guys say: well, i added the helper spring on the back of my truck so i'm fine, you know i can tow over maximum.
Well, no, like we said. First of all, you need to make sure your transmission cooler is either there or working uh properly your brakes. You know all those things have to have to be there right and bear in mind guys if you do something to augment your vehicle's ability to tow or haul. If it's still under warranty, that could be an issue you might void it so make absolutely sure that you're making the right decisions when you decide to take a torch to it or add something to it, yeah so guys as always. Thank you um.