Um just wanted to get your thoughts on it. French car companies have arguably the funkiest back catalogue of stuff to go and revisit you could say: um they're, they're, post and slightly pre war vehicles have been quirky fascinating. I think what citroen could go and do if they wanted to there's so much funky stuff yeah. That they could revisit so i'm really glad that reynolds had to go. There should be no shame in in going back there and plundering it. The idea of a great looking little concept, that's fully electric. You know you take all the best bits of a zoey and make it look like a renault five and a bit more range. Yeah i mean yeah, it looked fantastic that's, so good isn't, it yeah it's sort of one of those ideas, it's so simple, and when it's executed properly you're just going done, i thought about you. I had to peer it a bit and go run. If i you know there is the real life yeah. When you see those tablets, you go oh um, but it wasn't a complete pastiche yeah. So i think they're on a roll. I don't know you just feel sorry for particularly the french manufacturers and some of the italians as well that operate in that space. They have to sell cars at a certain price point. You know that, sadly, those brands can't exist at you know: 50 to 100 000 pounds so where's the margin.
Now, how many of these things they got to sell to make some money? It must cost billions to develop them and if they try and sell it for 25 grand no one's going to buy it yeah. You know the honda that you're knocking around in is great, but i i bet you it's not selling that well because it's just it's, it goes it's a 100 mile range and it's 30 grand yeah it's. You know that's that's a luxury item. Yeah, so can they can renault knock these things out for 15 grand i'm, not sure they can well it's interesting. You say because it's going to be very similar tech under a lot of cars, you've got a skateboard chassis, one or two motors and then it's all about the body on top isn't. It that's where the emotion is that's, how you sell the car coach working interiors. All of that will become absolute, really, i'm excited by it, but the french seem to have slightly rediscovered their mojo at a time where the germans are slightly losing theirs. It'S interesting isn't it you know every time i see it the new little peugeot on the road. I just think it looks fantastic renault is rediscovering its mojo. Bmw is all over the place. Some strange mainstream car companies are doing well. Mazda'S just look consistently good. Looking volvos good looking cars when you see an x4, you just go so it's it's. Bizarre, no a good work from renault.
I saw it and just thought. Come on la regie. Sorry la reggie! You know the criticism is oh it's, just lazy design! Look! Look at you! Look at your back catalog! Oh! That was well loved. Let'S make one of those, but if you've got the back catalog, you said it, you got the heritage, you use it because you've got all these electric startups coming online. They haven't got any of that. They'Ve just got a pen, something from scratch exactly. Why not? Pluck our heartstrings, i think so as well. There'S, nothing there's, nothing to be ashamed of. If peugeot made a car that looked at the 205 we've said it for years, it would sell. Like you know, the thing is the the the new 208. You know there's there's little bits of 205 in it, but not enough not enough, so this renault five is more overtly. You know a modern, refresh, doesn't know i'm i'm, all in favor. They need to go for it. Did you ever own? A r5? No, my brother had one. I was always a 205 man, but he had a proper old series, one with a little 1.1 liter engine in it and uh and the roll angles he could generate. In the thing i mean i looked like it was upside down. Half the time, but so comfortable, small french cars from the 70s and 80s were a high point of all car design because they went their own way that's.
What i loved about the the the shift in in the way car companies have behaved over the last few years, particularly with the advent of the suv for me, is that 60s 70s and 80s car companies were bold and they made decisions and they conjured solutions to The way people interact with machines, and so this is what we're going to do and we're going to sell it to you. Now people focus group things and say: what do you want and everyone goes. I want to be big and strong, and i want to make out like i've got a massive willie and and they give you an suv and then that's why they don't invite you to focus exactly and and so and then and then they turn on answers and Go well, the customer told us they wanted that we need clever engineers to say we've done this. I know the great example of this and i've bored you with it before is the 550 marinello one of the best ferraris ever and then i think i always brought you back with the steve jobs example, which is the ipod he didn't refuse to do any focus Groups or ask anyone what they wanted. This is in my brain i'm. Gon na offer it to you ferrari says to 550 customers. How do you want us to face, lift your car and they they said three different things, all of which made the 575 yeah. So don't ask people for advice.
No, there you go um running five turbo. Have you ever had to go in one of those? Yes proper ones? Yes, our cover test was the homologation specials together. Was it turbo, 2 or turbo one, so that's, very, very rare, yeah there's, so few of those yeah it did feel yeah a bit precious when we were around what color, interior red or something mad interior sort of marine, blue and bright red with a hi fi. That was stuck to the i think it was aftermarket stuck to the ceiling. I was unbelievable, but i thought the sport quattro was going to steal the show such a cool thing to look at it's, quite sort of forgettable to drive yeah and the turbo was just. I think that's a good turbo there wasn't it there are, there are turbos and there are turbos yeah it's good. It was a good one. Now turbo one is a rare car, because that was the original homologation car um, but i'm thinking this new turbo right. You got your batteries under the floor plan check out the back seats, a secondary stack of batteries, just to give you that weight distribution better range just sounds like an accident waiting to happen to me. No, i just wanted a raider back in the day i'm trying to get insurance on a raider, and i couldn't we just couldn't get insurance on them back then, and really you were either a peugeot man or a renault man.
It was you know: it's very partisan and i'd i'd pinned my colors to the peugeot mast and i wasn't gon na yeah, you weren't gon na shift, and you were gon na shift. The legions well here's your chance, then to we touched on it before. If, if we're going to revive some other french cars from the from the back catalog yeah, what deserves to be remade faithfully, i think no i'd leave the four alone, because i think the four is too special. I think i think the two cars you have to lean a little leave alone on the four and the two tv i just don't know they did a two cv concept years ago. They did it, but you've got to leave those two alone. They are the holy grail and they deserve to be left in peace, i'd, say citroen cx. I want to drive a big french saloon car again. We haven't had one since the c6, which still looks amazing to me, but the idea of a big french car that's. Basically got two sofas in it: there's a big citron coming out. Second half of this year is there yeah, we don't know what it is they're just calling it le big city they've been giving us all sorts, but i love the. I want something i want to see the french president being driven around in a car from france again, and i want that crazy dashboard with the thing the globe that moves there.
A single spoke steering wheel, all of the french design cues, and it has to be so comfortable that the driver needs to have a thing that pinches into people in the wake him or her awake. You know so you're so comfortable. Like wake me up. So one of those, i also think a visa would be good. A va or gs would be fun as well or an ami eight, how about an ammy with the crazy one of those i mean. The name fuego is so good and the car was so so bad that it deserves another shot. I think one of those, but i would also say just because i never understood the name when i was a car magazine reading teenager. I want a renault 19 chamad. I still what is a chamad? That was the saloon everyone watching furiously googled.